APN published some excerpts of the conversation of notorious Russian reporters Xenia Sobchak and Xenia Sokolova with Kadyrov, with whom Sobchak has been friends with for a long time. The complete text of the conversation is published in the June issue of the half-pornographic magazine GQ, which interviewed the ringleader of Chechen apostates (Murtads/pro-Russian collaborators).

Sobchak: Could you tell us, Ramzan, I kept asking myself for quite a while: why the Chechen Factory of Stars was hosted by Sergei Zverev? That, I must say,... is a somewhat unexpected choice...

Kadyrov: No, we did have our own hosts. Zverev arrived for just one show.

Sobchak: And is it true that you took the Tourbillion from your wrist and gave it to Zverev?

Kadyrov: Yes, I did give him my wristwatch.

Sobchak: So, I wonder what is it that Sergei Zverev and Ramzan Kadyrov have in common? You and him are like a rhino and a raccoon - complete opposites! Take Sergei's appearance as an example: his hairdo, his lips.....

Kadyrov: What does the outward appearance have to do with it? That's his job, he is a stylist, a singer. His views on life are different. Other than that he is an interesting, a companionable man.

Sobchak: And they say that Kadyrov is a hater of gay culture. Looks like you are a liberal!

Kadyrov: No, no, no! What are you talking about? Gay culture...I'm categorically against gay culture!

Sobchak: But Ramzan, you do understand that Sergei Zverev, how shall I put it.... Does not sleep with women...

Kadyrov: Did you see that? I asked him...

Sobchak: And what did he say?...

Kadyrov: He gave his word he wasn't gay!

Sobchak: And you believed him right away. So, such and such a man, Sergei Zverev with silicone lips and flashy hairdo comes to you and says: "Honestly, I'm natural hetero".

Sokolova: And then he says, "Ramzan, the watch that you got is so...."

Kadyrov: No! It's not how it happened!

Sobchak: But how?

Kadyrov: I was sitting with the girls, with our girls.

Sobchak: Aha! Backing out on us!....

Kadyrov: Dima Bilan finished his concert, and then our guys were dancing Lezghinka. Then I started giving New Year's gifts to the girls.

Sobchak: And here he crawls up all of a sudden...

Kadyrov: You are putting me in an awkward position! A Chechen is not supposed to even be talking about things like that. He gave me his word!

Sobchak: I think it's not hard to guess...the way his hair is arranged...

Kadyrov: And I asked him, ‘Sergei, why is your haircut so unlikable?'

Sokolova: Got that right, unlikable.

Kadyrov: I told him: do it some other way. Straighten it out.

Sokolova: You're a jack-of-all-trades! Stylish advices to Sergei Zverev from Ramzan Kadyrov.

Sobchak: From your story it follows that you are a gullible person. Ramzan, however unpleasant it would be on my part, I must disclose a terrible secret to you. I'm afraid, no one else is going to do this if I don't.

Kadyrov: Go ahead!

Sobchak: Sergei Zverev lied to you. Now he has your watch on his wrist. Can you actually imagine what he could be doing with his hands?!

Kadyrov: Listen, you have a lot of gay people in Russia. They have watches, rings, underwear. Why would I have anything to do with them?! Zverev said he wasn't gay, and I believed him. You have no right to slander a person! It's a very great sin! This is what they write about me: cannibal, murderer, drug addict, kidnaps people. And this is absolutely never confirmed!

Sokolova: We see!

Kadyrov: Never in my life I have killed or kidnapped a person... I haven't tried an ordinary cigarette, alcohol or any drugs. Only entered a club once in my life. Remember we were sitting there with you and Umar?

Sobchak: Yes, it was "First".

Sokolova: And who is a regular client in GQ Bar?

Kadyrov: It's a restaurant.

Sobchak: Ramzan, you are making excuses as if we are accusing you of eating Christian infants. Giving a Tourbillion to Sergei Zverev is not a crime.

Kadyrov: For a Chechen the gravest crime is to say: I'm friends with a gay person! I shouldn't even be pronouncing that word.

Sokolova: This is the difference of cultures that you were talking about. In Russia the word "gay" is not an insult.

Kadyrov: This is why Russian women want to marry men from the Caucasus...

Sokolova: Tell us which things are an absolute taboo, a ban in a Chechen family?

Kadyrov: Everything you are doing is under a ban.

Sobchak: Give us an example.

Kadyrov: Your speech. You can't swear.

Sobchak: We never said any swearword during our conversation with you!

Sokolova: Even though we felt like it.

Kadyrov (to Sobchak): Last time you were telling me dirty jokes with swearwords.

Sobchak: I thought you liked it!!!

Kadyrov: I didn't. Can't do that. And look at the way you're sitting! Your undies are showing!

Sobchak: This is my most decent dress!

Sokolova: All right, let's not get personal! And are there any bans in sexual life?

Kadyrov: Such things are not discussed in public.

Sobchak: Are you allowed to use a condom?

Kadyrov: Shut up!

Sokolova: Actually, is there any sex in Chechnya?!

Kadyrov: Satan take you! We have no sex!

Sokolova: All right. Can't talk about sex, let's talk about politics. Why did you prohibit Chechen women from wearing European dresses at their weddings?

Kadyrov: First of all, I did not prohibit, I gave a recommendation. Second, you know how beautiful our national dresses are.

Sobchak: Even better than Valentino?

Kadyrov: I'm gonna go ahead and ask the minister of culture so that they could bring you one and you'll try it on. (Gets on the phone with minister).

Sobchak: Oh, I'm really...

Kadyrov: At least you'll look decent...

Sobchak: Ramzan, if we went as far as the dress. Let me offer you something else. Take me as your second wife.

Kadyrov: Shaytan!

Sobchak: I think it'll be a good patriotic and educational act. Fallen Russian TV host is reforming under the ennobling influence of you and the laws of the Sharia.

Kadyrov: Interesting proposal. But you'll have to be reeducated a lot. Punished.

Sobchak: How is that? Are you gonna beat me? Or put me in the corner to kneel on the peas?

Kadyrov: No. But I will be locking you up at home. Under lock and key.

Sobchak: So discos are a no-no? And I'll climb out of the window on a rope ladder!

Kadyrov: I'll have to use handcuffs.

Sokolova: O, here comes the S&M!

Sobchak: Yeah, role-plays!

Kadyrov (sadly): I told you, both of you are damaged material. Too bad.

Source: APN

Translated from Russian to English by Kavkaz Center